Saturday, January 21, 2012

Jews, lets say it is 70 years ago

Jews, lets say it is 70 years ago....?
Would you still have called Israel to be your rightful land, and would you still have refered to the area of the West Bank as " Our Judea and Samaria"? 70 years ago would you have said This land belongs to us, what is this "Palestine", this is our homeland. Would you as a Jew, living in Russia or Spain, Iraq, Yemen, syria, god knows where else, still think that the land belongs to you? Cherson: As the majority living in Palestine back then were Arabs I believe yes they would chant Palestine as their land......
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1 :
70 years a go European Jews would have looked at Palistine as a good place to escape the nazis as it was 1941.
2 :
Would Arabs who lived 70 years ago chant "Palestine is our native land"? How many of them knew where this "apelstine" was? Could any Arab at all claim Jerusalem as a capital of a "palestinian state"? Would you as an Arab living in Russia or Spain, Yemen, Syria or Allah knows where else, still think that Judea and Samaria belong to you?
3 :
Israel has ALWAYS been the right and true homeland of ALL Jews, Palestine is merely another name for Israel
4 :
The answer is yes, because in all of our prayers, three times a day, we mention returning to Jerusalem and to Israel. The British at that time said they were going to give the Jewish people a homeland. That is all a part of history. It is all written down in history. They were gratified that the Jewish people, the bankers, came through and helped finance the war. The homeland that Britain said it would set aside consisted of all of what is now Israel and all of what was then the nation of Jordan--the whole thing. That was what Britain promised to give the Jews in 1917. In the beginning, there was some Arab support for this action. There was not a huge Arab population in the land at that time, and there is a reason for that. The land was not able to sustain a large population of people. It just did not have the development it needed to handle those people, and the land was not really wanted by anybody. Nobody really wanted this land. It was considered to be worthless land. You may have read ``Huckleberry Finn'' and ``Tom Sawyer.'' Mark Twain--Samuel Clemens--took a tour of Palestine in 1867. This is how he described that land. We are talking about Israel now. He said: A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human being on the whole route. There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country. Where was this great Palestinian nation? It did not exist. It was not there. Palestinians were not there. Palestine was a region named by the Romans, but at that time it was under the control of Turkey, and there was no large mass of people there because the land would not support them. This is the report that the Palestinian Royal Commission, created by the British, made. It quotes an account of the conditions on the coastal plain along the Mediterranean Sea in 1913. This is the Palestinian Royal Commission. They said: The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track, suitable for transport by camels or carts. No orange groves, orchards or vineyards were to be seen until one reached the Yavnev village. Houses were mud. Schools did not exist. The western part toward the sea was almost a desert. The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many villages were deserted by their inhabitants. That was 1913. The French author Voltaire described Palestine as ``a hopeless, dreary place.'' In short, under the Turks the land suffered from neglect and low population. That is a historic fact. The nation became populated by both Jews and Arabs because the land came to prosper when Jews came back and began to reclaim it. Historically, they began to reclaim it. If there had never been any archaeological evidence to support the rights of the Israelis to the territory, it is also important to recognize that other nations in the area have no longstanding claim to the country either. Did you know that Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks.
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If you go back in time 70 years, the answer is yes. However, if you go back a 150 years, the answer is definitely NO. They were looking for a "homeland" but Palestine at that time wasn't their number 1 choice, they suggested many countries to steal. But throughout history they never felt this sudden nostalgia they're feeling today to their "ancient homeland". The reason why their ultimate choice was Palestine is because no other country accepted them. So they massacred the Palestinians and established their "homeland" on the ruins of the Palestinians' homes, and ever since they've been bullshitting the world about their jewish country.
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70 years ago? It will be 1941. Why only Jews can say? Let's take 90 years ago, 1922-League of Nations (today UN) approved creation of 5 new states in the ME. 4 of them, Egypt, Israel, Syria and Lebanon existed only in remote history. The 5th state- Jordan has never existed before and was created for Arabs in Palestine. BTW, the Israel included the West Bank (the real name is Judea) and Gaza. Or let's take 1919, 92 years ago and map of the Palestine signed by Arab king Faisal. Or let's take 1799 Napoleon declaration about Palestine General Headquarters, Jerusalem 1st Floreal, April 20th, 1799, in the year of 7 of the French Republic BUONAPARTE, COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE ARMIES OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC IN AFRICA AND ASIA, TO THE RIGHTFUL HEIRS OF PALESTINE. Israelites, unique nation, whom, in thousands of years, lust of conquest and tyranny have been able to be deprived of their ancestral lands, but not of name and national existence ! Attentive and impartial observers of the destinies of nations, even though not endowed with the gifts of seers like Isaiah and Joel, have long since also felt what these, with beautiful and uplifting faith, have foretold when they saw the approaching destruction of their kingdom and fatherland: And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads; they shall obtain joy and gladness and sorrow and sighing shall flee away. (Isaiah 35,10) Arise then, with gladness, ye exiled ! A war unexampled In the annals of history, waged in self-defense by a nation whose hereditary lands were regarded by its enemies as plunder to be divided, arbitrarily and at their convenience, by a stroke of the pen of Cabinets, avenges its own shame and the shame of the remotest nations, long forgotten under the yoke of slavery, and also, the almost two-thousand-year-old ignominy put upon you; and, while time and circumstances would seem to be least favourable to a restatement of your claims or even to their expression ,and indeed to be compelling their complet abandonment, it offers to you at this very time, and contrary to all expectations, Israel's patrimony ! The young army with which Providence has sent me hither, let by justice and accompanied by victory, has made Jerusalem my head-quarters and will, within a few days, transfer them to Damascus, a proximity which is no longer terrifying to David's city. Rightful heirs of Palestine ! The great nation which does not trade in men and countries as did those which sold your ancestors unto all people (Joel,4,6) herewith calls on you not indeed to conquer your patrimony ;nay, only to take over that which has been conquered and, with that nation's warranty and support, to remain master of it to maintain it against all comers. Arise ! Show that the former overwhelming might of your oppressors has but repressed the courage of the descendants of those heroes who alliance of brothers would have done honour even to Sparta and Rome (Maccabees 12, 15) but that the two thousand years of treatment as slaves have not succeeded in stifling it. Hasten !, Now is the moment, which may not return for thousands of years, to claim the restoration of civic rights among the population of the universe which had been shamefully withheld from you for thousands of years, your political existence as a nation among the nations, and the unlimited natural right to worship Jehovah in accordance with your faith, publicly and most probably forever (JoeI 4,20).
7 :
It's our fault, the Palestinians that we started accepting non arab jews in Palestine and protected their @sses from anti Semites in Europe. What did we get in exchange? Massacres and genocides, tens of thousands of people died.
8 :
70 years ago some of them had already made their way to Palestine with the help of their chum Adolf Hitler ( PBUH.) He and the zionists had an agreement, The Haavara Agreement, 60,000 Jews emigrated to Palestine under this agreement bringing with them $100 million (almost $1.7 billion in 2009 dollars)
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Jews back then were only 31% of total Palestine population - who owned less than 6% of total lands in Palestine - and only one-third of them acquired Palestinian citizenship. So back then Palestine was anything but Jewish. Zionist thugs used terrorist means to transfer Jews to Palestine, and kick out the native non-Jewish population. @Cherson : according to both Ottoman and British statistics, majority of Arabs in Palestine are native and not immigrants



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